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Oh yea he is not a run it up coach , but I guess what I was trying to say , and especially for WRs is we don't sub that often . I think we have the depth to go 6-7 deep the last couple years but you rarely see them
And I agree with the not showing your opponent up . As a coach and old school on the way I was coached , what goes around comes around

FWBFLlaw
Alabama Fan
Member since Aug 2018
2196 posts

Definitely, I still remember the look Saban had in his face when Henry broke off the long run against Arkansas late in the game.
I agree, never liked the idea of running up the score. Game is in hand, run out the clock, and avoid injuries.

Carlton
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quote:
Definitely, I still remember the look Saban had in his face when Henry broke off the long run against Arkansas late in the game.

I always think of Eddie Lacy in the Citrus Bowl against MSU. I never took it as Saban being mad about running up the score, but being mad at the other team's coach cause we are running basic plays so we don't run up the score and make it as easy on you as possible and you all can't even stop that .

remaster916
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Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
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Robot Santa
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Member since Oct 2009
36479 posts

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I agree, never liked the idea of running up the score. Game is in hand, run out the clock, and avoid injuries

I fully support a rule where as soon as a game reaches a 40 point margin anytime after the half or a 30 point margin at any time in the 4th quarter it automatically triggers a running clock. Aside from getting a handful of live reps for backups there's really just no point in extending a game that's 49-3 with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter.

IB4bama
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Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1444 posts

quote:
Tua got to come in and run offense, and the 'backup' receivers he was playing with were Jeudy, Ruggs, and Smith. Young was not allowed to run offense. He came in and it was drain the clock time. Trying to compare him to Tua is absurd.

I think maybe Saban just didnt trust our defense enough this past season, and just wanted to try to shorten and get the game over. So he just ran the clock with Young

He looked completely lost every time he saw action last year, but considering he didn't have spring practice or anything and he was a freshman, I think that's understandable to a degree.

Well at least it won't/ shouldn't be much debate about who the QB will be this year so maybe nobody will get banned this off-season

Chad4Bama
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Member since Sep 2020
1036 posts

He looked sooo small. Can't gain height but hopefully an off-season in the conditioning program will put a few pounds of muscle on him.
I think he'll be fine, but definitely needs a full spring.
It seems our QB room is a little thin. Seems most of the highly ranked '22 QBs are committed. Doesn't mean we can't flip one, but if not, we need an elite one in '23.

Yea I alluded to that a month or so ago, if one transfers or god forbid suffers a serious injury , it will be razor thin

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14&Counting
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Manhattan Beach, CA
Member since Jul 2012
26674 posts

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2017 Tua is going to be the benchmark people set for backup QBs now unfortunately. Even though that was a complete outlier and literally every other starting QB Saban has had looked like crap outside of a few throws when they came in for mop up duty. AJ looked bad, Sims looked bad, Coker looked bad, Mac looked bad. They all turned out just fine as starters though.

GFTO with this reasonable post

paperwasp
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every other starting QB Saban has had looked like crap outside of a few throws when they came in for mop up duty. AJ looked bad

I fondly remember that '11 Penn State game when A.J. McCarron cemented his spot over Phillip Sims. (Hard to believe that was almost 10 years ago.)
That was one of the best old-school uniform games ever, and I loved seeing us play in Beaver Stadium.

NATidefan
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Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
31847 posts

I'm very interested in Byrce as well. Almost started this post myself the last few days.
But, really there just isnt a ton to say.
He needed spring practice and the summer last year and didnt get it. He has all the physical talent and abilities, but its gonna be more about him learning the offense, getting comfortable, getting up to speed, and reading the defenses. Basically he needs mind(brain) practice and we'll have to see how well he comes along with those skills.
Not really gonna know much until spring practice and scrimmages start happening.

Garfield
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Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7598 posts

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I mean a ton of this board said he would take over from Mac by the UGA game

quote:
Well, he had no spring and limited summer, limited fall, and Mac played better than any other quarterback in college football. So yeah, that will hurt your chances of beating out a veteran.

I didn't predict it one way or another but this is very true. Basically Mac played better than anyone expected and Bryce had less time to develop than anyone expected (missing spring and much of summer).
I wasn't wowed by Bryce when he played but just like the previous post on back-ups mentioned - almost all our backups have looked like shite. I remember Blake Sims looking like he had never played QB in the spring game right before having a great season. I remember when Tua got hurt against UT year before last. I live in Tennessee and was listening to their postgame. They said: 'well they got us this year but they are finally going to struggle next year. That Mac Jones kid isn't beating many teams in the SEC.' Mac of course went on to beat everyone team in the SEC besides the two worst which he didn't play.

Grievous Angel
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Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
5689 posts

Fanbase is going to have to cut him some slack. We've had magic at that position for 3 years.
Now there's tons of player turnover, plus a new OC.
I expect us to return to earth a little on O..hopefully that gives the defense a moment in the sun.

BLG
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Alabama
Member since Mar 2018
2187 posts

I thought Young looked fine especially considering no spring practice and limited voluntary summer work with the wide receivers.
He completed about 60% of his passes on the year which was better than either of the 2 LSU freshmen qbs, and I only mention LSU qbs because it's pretty much all your hear about on the Rant forum. Young's completion pct and qb rating was close to that of Jalen Hurts freshman year, and a lot of Jalen's completions were basically long handoffs, jet sweeps.
For an example of his potential, I remember one play, perhaps vs Missouri, when there was a really bad snap from center that could easily have been a turnover, but Young not only retained possession, but completed a pass play. A lot of experienced qbs would have failed on that play, let alone a true freshman with little practice and few game opportunities.
I am confident Young will play well.

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Oh yea he is not a run it up coach , but I guess what I was trying to say , and especially for WRs is we don't sub that often . I think we have the depth to go 6-7 deep the last couple years but you rarely see them
And I agree with the not showing your opponent up . As a coach and old school on the way I was coached , what goes around comes around

FWBFLlaw
Alabama Fan
Member since Aug 2018
2196 posts

Definitely, I still remember the look Saban had in his face when Henry broke off the long run against Arkansas late in the game.
I agree, never liked the idea of running up the score. Game is in hand, run out the clock, and avoid injuries.

Carlton
Tuddies!
Member since Feb 2016
6632 posts
Online

quote:
Definitely, I still remember the look Saban had in his face when Henry broke off the long run against Arkansas late in the game.

I always think of Eddie Lacy in the Citrus Bowl against MSU. I never took it as Saban being mad about running up the score, but being mad at the other team's coach cause we are running basic plays so we don't run up the score and make it as easy on you as possible and you all can't even stop that .

remaster916
Alabama Fan
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
9896 posts

Robot Santa
SMU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
36479 posts

quote:
I agree, never liked the idea of running up the score. Game is in hand, run out the clock, and avoid injuries

I fully support a rule where as soon as a game reaches a 40 point margin anytime after the half or a 30 point margin at any time in the 4th quarter it automatically triggers a running clock. Aside from getting a handful of live reps for backups there's really just no point in extending a game that's 49-3 with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter.

IB4bama
Alabama Fan
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1444 posts

quote:
Tua got to come in and run offense, and the 'backup' receivers he was playing with were Jeudy, Ruggs, and Smith. Young was not allowed to run offense. He came in and it was drain the clock time. Trying to compare him to Tua is absurd.

I think maybe Saban just didnt trust our defense enough this past season, and just wanted to try to shorten and get the game over. So he just ran the clock with Young

He looked completely lost every time he saw action last year, but considering he didn't have spring practice or anything and he was a freshman, I think that's understandable to a degree.

Well at least it won't/ shouldn't be much debate about who the QB will be this year so maybe nobody will get banned this off-season

Chad4Bama
Alabama Fan
Member since Sep 2020
1036 posts

He looked sooo small. Can't gain height but hopefully an off-season in the conditioning program will put a few pounds of muscle on him.
I think he'll be fine, but definitely needs a full spring.
It seems our QB room is a little thin. Seems most of the highly ranked '22 QBs are committed. Doesn't mean we can't flip one, but if not, we need an elite one in '23.

Yea I alluded to that a month or so ago, if one transfers or god forbid suffers a serious injury , it will be razor thin

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14&Counting
Hawaii Fan
Manhattan Beach, CA
Member since Jul 2012
26674 posts

quote:
2017 Tua is going to be the benchmark people set for backup QBs now unfortunately. Even though that was a complete outlier and literally every other starting QB Saban has had looked like crap outside of a few throws when they came in for mop up duty. AJ looked bad, Sims looked bad, Coker looked bad, Mac looked bad. They all turned out just fine as starters though.

GFTO with this reasonable post

paperwasp
Alabama Fan
1.5x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
4989 posts
Online

quote:
every other starting QB Saban has had looked like crap outside of a few throws when they came in for mop up duty. AJ looked bad

I fondly remember that '11 Penn State game when A.J. McCarron cemented his spot over Phillip Sims. (Hard to believe that was almost 10 years ago.)
That was one of the best old-school uniform games ever, and I loved seeing us play in Beaver Stadium.

NATidefan
Alabama Fan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
31847 posts

I'm very interested in Byrce as well. Almost started this post myself the last few days.
But, really there just isnt a ton to say.
He needed spring practice and the summer last year and didnt get it. He has all the physical talent and abilities, but its gonna be more about him learning the offense, getting comfortable, getting up to speed, and reading the defenses. Basically he needs mind(brain) practice and we'll have to see how well he comes along with those skills.
Not really gonna know much until spring practice and scrimmages start happening.

Garfield
USA Fan
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7598 posts

quote:
I mean a ton of this board said he would take over from Mac by the UGA game

quote:
Well, he had no spring and limited summer, limited fall, and Mac played better than any other quarterback in college football. So yeah, that will hurt your chances of beating out a veteran.

I didn't predict it one way or another but this is very true. Basically Mac played better than anyone expected and Bryce had less time to develop than anyone expected (missing spring and much of summer).
I wasn't wowed by Bryce when he played but just like the previous post on back-ups mentioned - almost all our backups have looked like shite. I remember Blake Sims looking like he had never played QB in the spring game right before having a great season. I remember when Tua got hurt against UT year before last. I live in Tennessee and was listening to their postgame. They said: 'well they got us this year but they are finally going to struggle next year. That Mac Jones kid isn't beating many teams in the SEC.' Mac of course went on to beat everyone team in the SEC besides the two worst which he didn't play.

Grievous Angel
Alabama Fan
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
5689 posts

Fanbase is going to have to cut him some slack. We've had magic at that position for 3 years.
Now there's tons of player turnover, plus a new OC.
I expect us to return to earth a little on O..hopefully that gives the defense a moment in the sun.

BLG
Alabama Fan
Alabama
Member since Mar 2018
2187 posts

I thought Young looked fine especially considering no spring practice and limited voluntary summer work with the wide receivers.
He completed about 60% of his passes on the year which was better than either of the 2 LSU freshmen qbs, and I only mention LSU qbs because it's pretty much all your hear about on the Rant forum. Young's completion pct and qb rating was close to that of Jalen Hurts freshman year, and a lot of Jalen's completions were basically long handoffs, jet sweeps.
For an example of his potential, I remember one play, perhaps vs Missouri, when there was a really bad snap from center that could easily have been a turnover, but Young not only retained possession, but completed a pass play. A lot of experienced qbs would have failed on that play, let alone a true freshman with little practice and few game opportunities.
I am confident Young will play well.

NATidefan
Alabama Fan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
31847 posts

We dont need him to be a superstar from day one. But I would like to see him protect the football.
Interceptions are gonna happen here and there, but we dont need him fumbling, taking huge sacks, and stuff like that.

artompkins
Alabama Fan
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
3659 posts

NATidefan
Alabama Fan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
31847 posts

labamafan
Alabama Fan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
21862 posts

He reminded me of Tua without all the scrambling. He held the ball too long but it's not fair to put expectations ina kid that has yet to have taken a meaningful snap in a game or even a spring game at that.

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